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Fr. Brian Carpenter on Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. Fr. Brian Carpenter offers his thoughts on Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2, its differences from the book and the theological …More
Fr. Brian Carpenter on Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.

Fr. Brian Carpenter offers his thoughts on Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2, its differences from the book and the theological implications of these differences. (Spoiler alert).
Saraash
With all due respect "father",
But how can you be even watching those movies that satanic and witch people are doing. Did you not know that the movie was made by one of the great witches, a real with?, and that the spells said in the movie are actual and real spells that were taken out of the book of the male goat.
You also gave good previews to the movie Frozen when the Walt Disney studios do not …More
With all due respect "father",

But how can you be even watching those movies that satanic and witch people are doing. Did you not know that the movie was made by one of the great witches, a real with?, and that the spells said in the movie are actual and real spells that were taken out of the book of the male goat.

You also gave good previews to the movie Frozen when the Walt Disney studios do not only hire gay people, but they also include a lot of subliminal messages that contain genitals in their movies so children are indirectly introduced to sex? you should do your research instead of being a movie fan.

You should be taking care of the flock not leading the flock into the abyss.. I do hope that you do your own research on all those things you are giving your thumbs up because damnation comes to a priest like a clap of hands or smack of fingers. God Bless.
Tante Klara
Fr. Carpenter
"I apologize to those whose interest was more sincere, and am willing to continue the conversation in a different forum."
Gibt es dieses Forum, in dem das Für und Wider der Harry-Potter-Bücher sachlich besprochen werden kann?More
Fr. Carpenter

"I apologize to those whose interest was more sincere, and am willing to continue the conversation in a different forum."

Gibt es dieses Forum, in dem das Für und Wider der Harry-Potter-Bücher sachlich besprochen werden kann?
ACLumsden
EJG - Thanks mate! 🙂 I think this is what Fr Brian, Ira and I were getting at - you just 'hit the nail on the head' so to speak. While we take the criticisms in good stride, one cannot go around 'frightened of ones shadow', looking for demons around every corner and in everything one does not understand..... 🙄 It is specifically this attitude to life that gives birth to superstition, the turning …More
EJG - Thanks mate! 🙂 I think this is what Fr Brian, Ira and I were getting at - you just 'hit the nail on the head' so to speak. While we take the criticisms in good stride, one cannot go around 'frightened of ones shadow', looking for demons around every corner and in everything one does not understand..... 🙄 It is specifically this attitude to life that gives birth to superstition, the turning of the sacred "Hoc est enim corpus meum" into the superstitious derivitive "Hocusposus"! Not to mention the witch-tirals of Salem etc.... 😇
Tante Klara
@StellaMARIA
Wenn man das Buch von G. Kuby "Harry Potter, Gut oder Böse" liest, meint man, Draco Malfoy hätte das Buch geschrieben, so einseitig, so verzerrt und falsch stellt die manche Dinge dar. Das im einzelnen zu schildern, sprengt diese Anmerkung. Draco Malfoy ist in den Potter-Büchern der erbitterte Feind Harry Potters.
Die Potter-Bücher handeln schlicht und einfach vom Kampf Gut gegen Böse …More
@StellaMARIA

Wenn man das Buch von G. Kuby "Harry Potter, Gut oder Böse" liest, meint man, Draco Malfoy hätte das Buch geschrieben, so einseitig, so verzerrt und falsch stellt die manche Dinge dar. Das im einzelnen zu schildern, sprengt diese Anmerkung. Draco Malfoy ist in den Potter-Büchern der erbitterte Feind Harry Potters.

Die Potter-Bücher handeln schlicht und einfach vom Kampf Gut gegen Böse. Dass das Gute durchmischt ist (Erbsünde, sündiger Mensch) und die stete Aufmerksamkeit, Wachsamkeit, Bereitschaft, Reue, Rückblick braucht, kommt deutlich heraus. Während das Böse diese Bedenken nirgends zeigt.

In den Potter-Büchern wird nicht nur rein begrifflich beschrieben - also abstrakt - was das Böse treibt, sondern geschildert, wie es ist. Und wie die gute Seite dagegen kämpft, allerdings nicht mit denselben Mitteln. Es zeigt aber die Versuchung, es doch zu tun, geradeso, wie es im Menschsein abläuft.

Jeder normale Abendkrimi, jede Bild-Zeitung oder das Vorabendprogramm im Fernsehen zeigen mehr Anleitungen zum Verderbtsein als alle Potter-Bücher zusammen!

In der scheinheiligen (?) ("evangelischen") Welt Kubys haben heine Märchen, keine deftigen Sagen Platz, sondern nur die Blümelein und Herzelein ihrer Kindergarten-piep-piep-pier-wir-ham-uns-alle-lieb-Geschichten.

Will Kuby auch die grimmschen Volksmärchen mit einem Bann belegen? Denn da geht es mit bösen Hexen, Riesen und Zauberern, Stiefmütter und Teufeln auch grauenvoll böse zu (z.B. "Das Mädchen ohne Hände"). Wie soll denn das Gute sonst herausgefordert werden?

Wie soll man das Böse schildern, wenn nicht anhand von Taten? Das bleibt doch abstrakt, wenn man sagt: "Der Sowieso ist aber böse." Wieso, warum, was hat er denn getan? Das will man doch wissen. Und im Schildern dessen erwerben wir unsere Urteilsfähigkeit.

Das ganz normale tägliche Fernsehen ist ZYANKALI = Gift für Kinder und Jugendlichen !!!!!!!!
soundingjoy
EJG,
What wisdom I find in your discourse about thinking on whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is of good report, if there be any excellence, if there be any praise, think on these things.Thie focus then becomes Christ and the world fades away in the light of His glory and grace.
Thank you for the encouraging post. Pardon my misspelled words, as I am still recovering from illness.
In …More
EJG,
What wisdom I find in your discourse about thinking on whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is of good report, if there be any excellence, if there be any praise, think on these things.Thie focus then becomes Christ and the world fades away in the light of His glory and grace.
Thank you for the encouraging post. Pardon my misspelled words, as I am still recovering from illness.
In Christ,
Soundingjoy
Irapuato
😀 EJG--It's true 😁 one is so busy uploading, 🙄 one doesn't always have time to watch EVERYTHING one uploads 😉 (I mainly LISTEN to my videos... ☕ .)
EJGCatholic
ACLumsden, without venturing into the debate, from personal experience anything that Fr.Gabriele Amorth or Pope Benedict writes/says(as commented below), i would take with very serious reflection and humble consideration... besides i am always curious where do good priests and religious find the time to read and dwell in all these fantasy books and see so many entertaining movies? as a layman, …More
ACLumsden, without venturing into the debate, from personal experience anything that Fr.Gabriele Amorth or Pope Benedict writes/says(as commented below), i would take with very serious reflection and humble consideration... besides i am always curious where do good priests and religious find the time to read and dwell in all these fantasy books and see so many entertaining movies? as a layman, though a poor contemplative, i don't have enough time in a week to read and discover all the good holy things for my mind soul. .heck i havent even seen fully most of the stuff I put on gloria.tv!! lol,..so Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, dwell on these things. PhIl. 4:8 🙂
PAX
ACLumsden
Hey Greg! Thanks 🤗 I rather think we are on the 'same page' here.
On another note, do any of you chaps know what StellaMARIA is on about???? 🥴
StellaMARIA
@Tante Klara for you:
Die Frage: Quo vadis?
H.P. is ZYANKALI =Potassium cyanideKCN=Kaliumcyanid=Cyjanek potasu=Poison= Giftfor children und Jugendlichen !!!!!!!!
FILM 1:12min
gloria.tv/reply/rBz3fhpxkjSW1vtJ9oXtGcGqi
FILM 14: 59 min
SATAN WILL ANBETUNG!! (HD-Version)
ich meine, dass Sie eine Neue Optik brauchen...!
Auf diesen Links ist alles klar geschrieben....!!!!!!
www.gabriele-kuby.de/buecher …More
@Tante Klara for you:
Die Frage: Quo vadis?

H.P. is ZYANKALI =Potassium cyanideKCN=Kaliumcyanid=Cyjanek potasu=Poison= Giftfor children und Jugendlichen !!!!!!!!

FILM 1:12min
gloria.tv/reply/rBz3fhpxkjSW1vtJ9oXtGcGqi
FILM 14: 59 min
SATAN WILL ANBETUNG!! (HD-Version)

ich meine, dass Sie eine Neue Optik brauchen...!

Auf diesen Links ist alles klar geschrieben....!!!!!!

www.gabriele-kuby.de/buecher/harry-potter

Rome's Chief Exorcist Warns Parents Against Harry Potter

Gabriele Amorthis anItalianRoman Catholicpriestand anexorcistof theDiocese of Rome.Father Amorth was also one of the voices that made public warnings to parents about J. K. Rowling's Harry Potter novels, noting that the books attempt to make a false distinction between black and white magic, when in fact, the distinction "does not exist, because magic is always a turn to the devil."

Pope Opposes Harry Potter Novels - Signed Letters from Cardinal Ratzinger Now Online

www.womenofgrace.com/tv-shows/10224-Harry-Pot…

Harry Potter expert criticizes Vatican newspaper’s glowing review of Deathly Hallows 2

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriele_Amorth

www.ignatiusinsight.com/features/framorth_excerp…

www.ignatiusinsight.com/features/framorth_excerp…

Papst Benedikt XVI. /Joseph Kardinal Ratzinger:
„ Es ist gut, dass Sie in Sachen Harry Potter aufklären, denn dies sind subtile Verführungen, die unmerklich und gerade dadurch tief wirken und das Christentum in der Seele zersetzen, ehe es überhaupt recht wachsen konnte."

Stellungnahme Papst Benedikt XVI./Kardinal Ratzingers
Die Urteile über Harry Potter polarisieren selbst gläubige Christen. Es gibt auch unter konservativen Priestern kämpferische Befürworter Harry Potters. Als in der Presse zu lesen war, „Vatikan gibt grünes Licht für Harry Potter“, schrieb ich an Kardinal Ratzinger:

Brief von Gabriele Kuby an Kardinal Ratzinger am 20. Februar 2003
„Daß es in der Kirche Verwirrung über Harry Potter gibt und diese Bücher in den meisten Pfarrbibliotheken zu finden sind, ist schlimm genug, denn sie stellen Fluchen, perverse magische Praktiken bis hin zu einem auf 30 Seiten geschilderten satanischen Blutritual als normalen Alltag dar. Daß es aber nun heißen kann: ’Der Vatikan gibt grünes Licht für Harry Potter’, ist niederschmetternd.“

(Diese Schlagzeile war auf eine persönliche Meinungsäußerung von Msgr. Peter Fleetwood zurückzuführen bei einer Pressekonferenz zu einem anderen Thema.)

Brief von Kardinal Ratzinger an Gabriele Kuby am 7. März 2003:
Sehr geehrte, liebe Frau Kuby!

Vielen Dank für Ihren freundlichen Brief vom 20. Februar und für das lehrreiche Buch, das Sie beigelegt haben. Es ist gut, dass Sie in Sachen Harry Potter aufklären, denn dies sind subtile Verführungen, die unmerklich und gerade dadurch tief wirken und das Christentum in der Seele zersetzen, ehe es überhaupt recht wachsen konnte."

Ich möchte Ihnen vorschlagen, Herrn Peter Fleetwood (Pontificio Consiglio per la Cultura, Piazza S. Calisto 16, 1-00153 Roma) direkt zu schreiben und ihm Ihr Buch zuzusenden.

Herzliche Grüße und Segenswünsche
Ihr

+ Joseph Kardinal Ratzinger *

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PS:Sie mússen den Rúckwärtsgang einschalten, in widrigem Fall.....enden Sie im geistlichen KOMA und nur durchBarmherzigkeit
und Gebete von wirklichen katholiken / nicht stolze K. / werden Sie gerettet... 🙏
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kfarley
Schoole, do you mean not go public on this forum with it? The forum in this case seems to have worked pretty well and I think the fact that the Pope does not endorse Harry Potter really says it all. In that aspect it is probably good the discussion was totally on the forum because if it were not then it may have resulted in all comments being Pro-Harry Potter and even encouraging more souls to watch …More
Schoole, do you mean not go public on this forum with it? The forum in this case seems to have worked pretty well and I think the fact that the Pope does not endorse Harry Potter really says it all. In that aspect it is probably good the discussion was totally on the forum because if it were not then it may have resulted in all comments being Pro-Harry Potter and even encouraging more souls to watch this series if half the people contacted Fr. privately while pro-Harry Potter's posted directly to the forum.
schoole
Right. I am not a specialist on this field but I have heard many opinions like this.
And do you think the way I implied, not to go public immediately, it would be Ok?More
Right. I am not a specialist on this field but I have heard many opinions like this.

And do you think the way I implied, not to go public immediately, it would be Ok?
kfarley
Thank you schoole, the points I've made have nothing to do with not respecting this or any other priest and deal directly with the issue of the occult being mainstreamed by Hollywood to children and presented as harmless and fun. Harry Potter movies make spells and magic seem to be from 2 different sources-White Magic & Black Magic, when in reality Magic is all Black and directly attained through …More
Thank you schoole, the points I've made have nothing to do with not respecting this or any other priest and deal directly with the issue of the occult being mainstreamed by Hollywood to children and presented as harmless and fun. Harry Potter movies make spells and magic seem to be from 2 different sources-White Magic & Black Magic, when in reality Magic is all Black and directly attained through satan. My video I posted a few days ago contained the words of the children themselves attesting to their desire to practice the magic they see in the Harry Potter movies. The movies are a deception and an endoctrination of children into the occult, paganism, witchcraft & sorcery and that is what has resulted from many children partaking of these movies-from the mouths of babes they have said so! It is sad to see Churches not being attended while Harry Potter theatres are filled. This is one of many manifestations of the spiritual warfare going on in the world that many people are deceived by. The Ouija Board video I put up yesterday shows the real force behind the occult-it's evil plain and simple.
schoole
Gregory 🤗
Dear kfarley
First thank you for your many good videos on Gloria I could see.
As you could read below I agree with you in the HP problem. You seem to be right for me in this case.
I also agrre with these your words:
Priests are to be respected but a priest is not always correct in all matters and when this occurs it is up to the flock to bring this to their attention.
However there are …More
Gregory 🤗

Dear kfarley
First thank you for your many good videos on Gloria I could see.
As you could read below I agree with you in the HP problem. You seem to be right for me in this case.

I also agrre with these your words:
Priests are to be respected but a priest is not always correct in all matters and when this occurs it is up to the flock to bring this to their attention.

However there are many ways to bring this to their attention.

First I would try to talk to this priest face to face (or mail to mail). And first try to understand his opinion.

Second: If no success, I would talk to this priest again with a help another Christian person.

To go public with the stuff it would be the last possible, but still bad option.

It is important that we resolve our Christian problems among us if it is possible.

What do you think about it?
🤗
schoole
Dear ACLumsden,
Indeed, your only argument in this "Discusion" is this: 😲 .
What I can see here is a deep caustic vacuum.
A real human being 🤗More
Dear ACLumsden,

Indeed, your only argument in this "Discusion" is this: 😲 .
What I can see here is a deep caustic vacuum.
A real human being 🤗
Irapuato
✍️ @ACL:For my part, having been born in México, there we were taught to have RESPECT for our priests, (if you speak ill of a priest, we were told, it is like poking Our Lord Jesus' eyes). Later, however, growning up in the U.S., (where I graduated from college), I did become more lax in this...Now, living in Europe, and not having as much access to Catholic Churches and Holy Mass, as I used to …More
✍️ @ACL:For my part, having been born in México, there we were taught to have RESPECT for our priests, (if you speak ill of a priest, we were told, it is like poking Our Lord Jesus' eyes). Later, however, growning up in the U.S., (where I graduated from college), I did become more lax in this...Now, living in Europe, and not having as much access to Catholic Churches and Holy Mass, as I used to have, I appreciate, more than ever, my Catholic Faith! 🙏 Consequently, I have gone back to being more conservative...AND RESPECTFUL OF OUR CLERGY.
P.S. You have the same sense of humour as my husband 🙄 does, so I have an idea as to "where you are coming from" 😉
ACLumsden
@schoole - 😲
@IRA and Greg - Indeed! 👍 Do you not think that not having the immediacy of presence on a website, (having the no 'face' to talk to), gives chaps a certain freedom from the conventions of live dialogue which does not always result in a happy process?
On other threads, I have discovered some Irish chaps like this as well. However, on THIS thread, tis mostly Americans. Sad to say really …More
@schoole - 😲

@IRA and Greg - Indeed! 👍 Do you not think that not having the immediacy of presence on a website, (having the no 'face' to talk to), gives chaps a certain freedom from the conventions of live dialogue which does not always result in a happy process?

On other threads, I have discovered some Irish chaps like this as well. However, on THIS thread, tis mostly Americans. Sad to say really, because, many of my good chums here are Americans working across the pond. I am yet to encounter a European (other than Schoole) here with a similar caustic approach to dialogue.

I reckon one just has to keep in mind (including myself) that there is a REAL human being at the other end of the written dialogue forum. That's all.... 😇 🤗
schoole
Dear ACLumsden,
As I wrote about the narrow minded nation I just repeated your words, what you wrote and think about Poland and other nations. Of course that is not my point of view to think so generally about all your nation. Indeed I met a lot of very open people in England. However, I am sorry to say that, you are not among them.
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Dear ACLumsden,

As I wrote about the narrow minded nation I just repeated your words, what you wrote and think about Poland and other nations. Of course that is not my point of view to think so generally about all your nation. Indeed I met a lot of very open people in England. However, I am sorry to say that, you are not among them.
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Irapuato
👍 Gregory! 😇
holyrope 3
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ACLumsden
Irenaeus - Hi! 🤗 Sorry to have had to shake things up in such an extreem way. I am indeed sorry that I had to 'lump everyone together' in that statement. I grow quite weary of the lack of decency and just good form among rather alot of chaps here. As I said most of these chaps just happen to be American. I am affraid, Irenaeus, that the American representation here (especially on THIS thread) only …More
Irenaeus - Hi! 🤗 Sorry to have had to shake things up in such an extreem way. I am indeed sorry that I had to 'lump everyone together' in that statement. I grow quite weary of the lack of decency and just good form among rather alot of chaps here. As I said most of these chaps just happen to be American. I am affraid, Irenaeus, that the American representation here (especially on THIS thread) only proves the "stero-type" all the more. (Fr Brian was certainly not like this!)

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