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Fr. Brian Carpenter on Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
Fr. Carpenter  16/07/2011 23:32:34
Fr. Brian Carpenter offers his thoughts on Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2, its differences from the book and the theological implications of these differences. (Spoiler alert).
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Tante Klara  15/11/2011 14:41:13
Fr. Carpenter

"I apologize to those whose interest was more sincere, and am willing to continue the conversation in a different forum."

Gibt es dieses Forum, in dem das Für und Wider der Harry-Potter-Bücher sachlich besprochen werden kann?
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ACLumsden  21/07/2011 09:24:14
EJG - Thanks mate! I think this is what Fr Brian, Ira and I were getting at - you just 'hit the nail on the head' so to speak. While we take the criticisms in good stride, one cannot go around 'frightened of ones shadow', looking for demons around every corner and in everything one does not understand..... It is specifically this attitude to life that gives birth to superstition, the turning of the sacred "Hoc est enim corpus meum" into the superstitious derivitive "Hocusposus"! Not to mention … [More]
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Tante Klara  21/07/2011 05:05:22
@StellaMARIA

Wenn man das Buch von G. Kuby "Harry Potter, Gut oder Böse" liest, meint man, Draco Malfoy hätte das Buch geschrieben, so einseitig, so verzerrt und falsch stellt die manche Dinge dar. Das im einzelnen zu schildern, sprengt diese Anmerkung. Draco Malfoy ist in den Potter-Büchern der erbitterte Feind Harry Potters.

Die Potter-Bücher handeln schlicht und einfach vom Kampf Gut gegen Böse. Dass das Gute durchmischt ist (Erbsünde, sündiger Mensch) und die stete Aufmerksamkeit, … [More]
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soundingjoy  21/07/2011 01:35:53
EJG,
What wisdom I find in your discourse about thinking on whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is of good report, if there be any excellence, if there be any praise, think on these things.Thie focus then becomes Christ and the world fades away in the light of His glory and grace.
Thank you for the encouraging post. Pardon my misspelled words, as I am still recovering from illness.
In Christ,
Soundingjoy
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Irapuato  21/07/2011 00:30:54
EJG--It's trueone is so busy uploading, one doesn't always have time to watch EVERYTHING one uploads(I mainly LISTEN to my videos....)
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EJGCatholic  21/07/2011 00:26:51
ACLumsden, without venturing into the debate, from personal experience anything that Fr.Gabriele Amorth or Pope Benedict writes/says(as commented below), i would take with very serious reflection and humble consideration... besides i am always curious where do good priests and religious find the time to read and dwell in all these fantasy books and see so many entertaining movies? as a layman, though a poor contemplative, i don't have enough time in a week to read and discover all the good holy … [More]
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ACLumsden  20/07/2011 21:59:15
Hey Greg! Thanks I rather think we are on the 'same page' here.
On another note, do any of you chaps know what StellaMARIA is on about????
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StellaMARIA  20/07/2011 21:05:31
@ Tante Klara for you:
Die Frage: Quo vadis?

H.P. is ZYANKALI =Potassium cyanideKCN=Kaliumcyanid=Cyjanek potasu=Poison= Giftfor children und Jugendlichen !!!!!!!!

FILM 1:12min
http://cs.gloria.tv/?media=177307
FILM 14: 59 min
http://cs.gloria.tv/?media=140684

ich meine, dass Sie eine Neue Optik brauchen...!

Auf diesen Links ist alles klar geschrieben....!!!!!!

http://www.gabriele-kuby.de/buecher/harry-potter/

Rome's Chief Exorcist Warns Parents Against Harry Potter

Gabriele Amorthis anIta … [More]
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kfarley  20/07/2011 18:01:23
Schoole, do you mean not go public on this forum with it? The forum in this case seems to have worked pretty well and I think the fact that the Pope does not endorse Harry Potter really says it all. In that aspect it is probably good the discussion was totally on the forum because if it were not then it may have resulted in all comments being Pro-Harry Potter and even encouraging more souls to watch this series if half the people contacted Fr. privately while pro-Harry Potter's posted directly … [More]
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schoole  20/07/2011 17:52:33
Right. I am not a specialist on this field but I have heard many opinions like this.

And do you think the way I implied, not to go public immediately, it would be Ok?
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kfarley  20/07/2011 17:39:46
Thank you schoole, the points I've made have nothing to do with not respecting this or any other priest and deal directly with the issue of the occult being mainstreamed by Hollywood to children and presented as harmless and fun. Harry Potter movies make spells and magic seem to be from 2 different sources-White Magic & Black Magic, when in reality Magic is all Black and directly attained through satan. My video I posted a few days ago contained the words of the children themselves attesting to … [More]
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schoole  20/07/2011 17:29:14
Gregory

Dear kfarley
First thank you for your many good videos on Gloria I could see.
As you could read below I agree with you in the HP problem. You seem to be right for me in this case.

I also agrre with these your words:
Priests are to be respected but a priest is not always correct in all matters and when this occurs it is up to the flock to bring this to their attention.

However there are many ways to bring this to their attention.

First I would try to talk to this priest face to face … [More]
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schoole  20/07/2011 09:49:38
Dear ACLumsden,

Indeed, your only argument in this "Discusion" is this:.
What I can see here is a deep caustic vacuum.
A real human being
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Irapuato  20/07/2011 09:33:20
@ACL:For my part, having been born in México, there we were taught to have RESPECT for our priests, (if you speak ill of a priest, we were told, it is like poking Our Lord Jesus' eyes). Later, however, growning up in the U.S., (where I graduated from college), I did become more lax in this...Now, living in Europe, and not having as much access to Catholic Churches and Holy Mass, as I used to have, I appreciate, more than ever, my Catholic Faith!Consequently, I have gone back to being more … [More]
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ACLumsden  20/07/2011 09:23:32
@Schoole -

@Ira and Greg - Indeed!Do you not think that not having the immediacy of presence on a website, (having the no 'face' to talk to), gives chaps a certain freedom from the conventions of live dialogue which does not always result in a happy process?

On other threads, I have discovered some Irish chaps like this as well. However, on THIS thread, tis mostly Americans. Sad to say really, because, many of my good chums here are Americans working across the pond. I am yet to encounter a … [More]
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schoole  20/07/2011 07:41:58
Dear ACLumsden,

As I wrote about the narrow minded nation I just repeated your words, what you wrote and think about Poland and other nations. Of course that is not my point of view to think so generally about all your nation. Indeed I met a lot of very open people in England. However, I am sorry to say that, you are not among them.
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Irapuato  20/07/2011 06:03:42
Gregory!
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holyrope 3  20/07/2011 00:24:45
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ACLumsden  20/07/2011 00:08:09
Irenaeus - Hi! Sorry to have had to shake things up in such an extreem way. I am indeed sorry that I had to 'lump everyone together' in that statement. I grow quite weary of the lack of decency and just good form among rather alot of chaps here. As I said most of these chaps just happen to be American. I am affraid, Irenaeus, that the American representation here (especially on THIS thread) only proves the "stero-type" all the more. (Fr Brian was certainly not like this!)

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irenaeus  19/07/2011 22:50:32
ACL said-
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Then, the Americans here are just that, American. Therefore one just needs to overlook their lack of class and decency and look to what they are really trying to say beneath all that verbal noise.
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Ahhh ACL! I thought a whole day went by without a bigoted remark from you toward Americans. I guess not. It is interesting that I don't find this kind of insecurity on display with other citizens of the UK... and I have spent some time over there and here with good English … [More]
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holyrope 3  19/07/2011 21:07:28
@gregory...STOP your harrassing!! STOP! I notice you now continue your harrassing AFTER Luchinka went OFFLINE.
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holyrope 3  19/07/2011 19:19:02
Yes, gregory, takes one to know one! Maybe you should write a book critiquing everyone as you seemingly take such great pleasure in doing so.
(Sometimes we just have to give one's own medicine in return! (You know what I mean!)
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kfarley  19/07/2011 18:52:38
Priests are to be respected but a priest is not always correct in all matters and when this occurs it is up to the flock to bring this to their attention. This is done on Gloria tv all of the time when videos of heretical Masses are shown and wrong practices are done by priests. There are priests who attend Gay Pride parades, should people also not speak up to them about that?
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schoole  19/07/2011 18:46:29
Die heisst "Das Gute und Normalle" Für Sie ist das eine Störung Institutum.

Sie leiden an 'Das Böse Nazismus'

Ich werde Sie noch später behandeln. Beruhigen Sie sich erst bitte.
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Institutum  19/07/2011 18:30:25
So wie "schoole" sich hier verhält und aufführt, bestätigt er die Aussagen von Bundeskanzler Konrad Adenauer, nachdem in den Jahren nach 1945 aufgrund des Potsdamer Abkommens aus den deutschen Ostgebieten über 13 Millionen Deutsche vertrieben wurden,

"6 Millionen Deutsche sind vom Erdboden verschwunden. Sie sind gestorben, verdorben."
(K. Adenauer, Erinnerungen 1945-1953, Stuttgart 1965, S. 186.)

Er beschimpft und beleidigt, nicht nur Lebende, sondern Verstorbene und deren Angehörige.

In der … [More]
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holyrope 3  19/07/2011 18:27:01
Spoken as though from someone with experience!
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holyrope 3  19/07/2011 18:19:17
@gregory...
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schoole  19/07/2011 18:11:22
This is rather interesting. ACLumsden is English and is typical english. Their system of manners and etiquette in speech and social grace, is quite different to the Polish and some of the Polish speaking American.

He thinks he talks a lot about etiquette and grace so he has it.
He speaks about intelligence so he is intelligent.
He likes learning and teaching other people. Probably would be a good teacher in the JK Rowling school.

Frankly speaking his biggest problem is nationality. He loves … [More]
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kfarley  19/07/2011 18:08:23
Tanta Klara you can believe what you want to but remember if the Pope is against Harry Potter there is a good reason for this. A man said to Padre Pio one day that he did not believe in hell, Padre Pio responded. "You'll believe it when you get there." The occult is what it is so what more can be said about it. If you wish to partake in these films and books that is your free will. There are much healthier forms of entertainment that enlighten the mind rather than put imagery of occult … [More]
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ACLumsden  19/07/2011 18:01:59
Kfarley - I did not speak of wisdom, rather, I long for decency and good christian methodology in discussion, things sadly lacking in many a thread on Gloria.tv. And when one looks into WHO is propagating this lack, one finds that my American cousins head the gang. Therefore, it is not a question of wisdom, rather, being from across the pond, I have a certain objectivity from distance observation. That is all.
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