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Berlin: Pope Gives Communion in the Hand
Gloria.TV – News Briefs  25/09/2011 06:41:34
Photo ~ Spanish Queen Sofia receiving Holy Communion in the hand, while standing over the kneeler

The President of the Bundestag, the German parliament, receives communion in the hand from the pope.



Pope Does Not Object to Communion in the Hand
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holyrope 3  26/09/2011 21:57:20
Holy Cannoli  26/09/2011 21:56:12
Vatican: Receiving Eucharist kneeling will be norm at papal liturgies

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Receiving the Eucharist on the tongue while kneeling before the pope will become the norm at papal liturgies, said the Vatican's liturgist.

Res ipsa loquitur.

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Clearly, what occured in Spain and again last week in Germany must not have been papal liturgies. If they had been papal liturgies then surely those receiving the Eucharist would have received on … [More]
holyrope 3  26/09/2011 21:46:09
"Ad Hominem Abusive" ...

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ACLumsden  26/09/2011 21:41:20
Hi SBpfu - Indeed.....
Holy Cannoli  26/09/2011 21:39:23
Logical Fallacy: Personal Attack

Also Known as: Ad Hominem Abusive.

A personal attack is committed when a person substitutes demeaning or insulting remarks for actual evidence when attacking another person's claim or claims.

This line of "reasoning" is fallacious because the attack is directed at the person making the claim and not the claim itself.

The truth value of a claim is independent of the person making the claim.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/personal-attack.html

holyrope 3  26/09/2011 21:18:13
ST. SIXTUS I (115-125). Prohibited the faithful from even touching the Sacred Vessels: "Statutum est ut sacra vasa non ab aliis quam a sacratis Dominoque dicatis contrectentur hominibus..." [It has been decreed that the Sacred Vessels are not to be handled by others than by those consecrated and dedicated to the Lord.]

POPE ST. EUTYCHIAN (275-283). Forbade the faithful from taking the Sacred Host in their hand.


ST. BASIL THE GREAT, DOCTOR OF THE CHURCH (330-379). "The right to receive Holy … [More]
ACLumsden  26/09/2011 21:10:54
@Gregory - Greetings Greg! I think you could NOT have articulated it any better. Well done that man, thanks!
holyrope 3  26/09/2011 20:52:29
How often do people have to be reminded of the horrendous abuses that have and still do take place since communion in the hand started? From finding consecrated Hosts in bathrooms, under pews, in pockets of people, and walking out with Our Lord in the Eucharist only to be SOLD for satanic masses.
This surely isn't new news for the Holy Father.

where did communion in the hand come from since it is nowhere proposed or even mentioned in the documents of Vatican II?

Why did it still come about on …
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Holy Cannoli  26/09/2011 19:46:38
Rorate Caeli

"Reform of the Reform" Apparently Put on Hold

Of course, in America, Cardinal Wuerl sees no problem giving the Blessed Sacrament to Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden or other rabidly pro-abortion politicians, so at least the modern Church is consistent in its standards, or complete lack thereof.

http://www.rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/
Holy Cannoli  26/09/2011 19:32:40
Vatican: Receiving Eucharist kneeling will be norm at papal liturgies

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Receiving the Eucharist on the tongue while kneeling before the pope will become the norm at papal liturgies, said the Vatican's liturgist.

Res ipsa loquitur.

Holy Cannoli  26/09/2011 19:26:43
Correction: That was not Christian Wulff who received Communion in the hand in this video. It was the President of Bundestag who stepped on the Pope's cassock a day earlier and who has publicly lobbied Germany's bishops against the marriage ban for priests.
Holy Cannoli  26/09/2011 19:08:41
Rope:

An amaing display of Papalotry (read: Pope worship) at work. The blind literally leading the blind.

Very few non-catholcs will ever take Catholics or the Catholic Church seriously when an obvious contradiciton of facts such as what occured in Spain and Germany is manifested and the response from the "do gooders" is to simply circle the wagons and act as if it doesn't really matter.

By the way, the man receiving in the hand is German President Christian Wulff who openly supports … [More]
holyrope 3  26/09/2011 18:52:06
For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgement to himself, not discerning the body of Christ. (1Cor 11:29)

There are some sad faces behind the pope: maybe because she is receiving the King of Kings in her own hands and becomes her own 'minister' of the Eucharist?

A kneeler is placed before her, but she still stands. Surely she had to have learned what the Vatican has stated over and over about the Holy Father wanting the faithful to receive Our Lord Kneeling and on … [More]
Holy Cannoli  26/09/2011 17:46:49
Who to believe?

My lying eyes or the musings of those sad victims -- cursed with inferior intellects -- who suffer from Papalotry (read: Pope worship)?

Holy Cannoli  26/09/2011 17:08:45
POPE-COMMUNION Jun-26-2008 (610 words) xxxi

Vatican: Receiving Eucharist kneeling will be norm at papal liturgies

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Receiving the Eucharist on the tongue while kneeling before the pope will become the norm at papal liturgies, said the Vatican's liturgist.

Res ipsa loquitur.

Holy Cannoli  26/09/2011 08:08:32
A personal attack is committed when a person substitutes demeaning or insulting remarks (even when expressed with such niceities as "I don't mean to offend but") for actual evidence when attacking another person's claim or claims.

This line of "reasoning" is fallacious because the attack is directed at the person making the claim and not the claim itself.

The truth value of a claim is independent of the person making the claim.

After all, no matter how repugnant an individual might be, he or … [More]
Simple but orthodox Catholic  26/09/2011 05:49:08
@tbswv Without wanting to be offensive to you, I have to say that your comments about the Holy Father are bordering on the disrespectful. Are you suggesting that we, the laity, know better than the Supreme Pontiff of God's Church on Earth and can do a better job at restoring and preserving our Catholic Tradition? Remember that Christ founded His Church on the Rock and Benedict is Peter today ... he, and he alone under Christ, is the Rock. We as faithful Catholics should respect, revere and obey … [More]
holyrope 3  25/09/2011 14:58:04
@tbswv...
tbswv  25/09/2011 14:56:00
You will know them by their fruits. Talk is cheap. If the Holy Father wishes for communion on the tongue while kneeling to be the norn, then highly publicized events such as these are perfect opportunities to show the intent of the Holy Father to the world. I am so disappointed to see this. Bishop Fulton Sheen was right: it will be up to the laity to restore and preserve our Roman Catholic Tradition. It will be a fight to the bitter end.
holyrope 3  25/09/2011 14:51:45
Yes, the irony!
Holy Cannoli  25/09/2011 13:05:20
Oh, the irony!

From 2008 - Receiving the Eucharist on the tongue while kneeling before the pope will become the norm at papal liturgies, said the Vatican's liturgist.

The operative words must be will become the norm which could mean in the year 2087.

Simple but orthodox Catholic  25/09/2011 08:43:35
Alleluia! It is great that Communion on the tongue while kneeling will become the norm at Pontifical Masses. It is as it should be. In fact, always and everywhere we should kneel and receive the Most Blessed Sacrament on the tongue. We must restore reverence and veneration for the Sacred Species.
I would like to clarify one thing though. When people kneel to receive the Eucharist at Papal Liturgies, they are doing so not because it is the Pope who is giving Communion but because it is Our Lord … [More]
Gloria.TV – News Briefs  25/09/2011 07:07:44
2008 - VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Receiving the Eucharist on the tongue while kneeling before the pope will become the norm at papal liturgies, said the Vatican's liturgist.
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