Gloria.tv: "Lack of any Spiritual Depth to Messages May be the Unraveling of Medjugorje"

"Lack of any Spiritual Depth to Messages May be the Unraveling of Medjugorje"

Gloria.TV – News Briefs 30/07/2012 06:36:48

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Father Mitch Pacwa: Lack of any Spiritual Depth to the Messages May be the Unraveling of Medjugorje

[Father Mitch] Pacwa said there is no chance for the visions to get approval while they're still going on, and it's a long shot even after they stop.

One quirk that emerged was when two of the Medjugorje visionaries said the Virgin Mary endorsed a book, "The Poem of the Man-God," that had been condemned by the Vatican. The fanciful 1940s biography of Jesus by Maria Valtorta contains details like a dancing girl brushing up against Jesus, Joseph giving young Jesus an anachronistic tool kit with screwdrivers and the Virgin Mary making statements such as "man disgusts me," Pacwa said.

"The book had been condemned by the church in 1959 because it said a lot of silly things that contradicted what was in the gospels," Pacwa said. "The church rejected it. Any vision must be judged by revelation that exists in the gospels. You can't say anything you want."

What may be the unraveling of the Medjugorje visions is the lack of any spiritual depth to the messages, Pacwa said.

"That is a much more pointed critique," he said. Link

Related:

Our Lady of Medjugorje?: Very Serious Counter-Signs - by Father Jay Scott Newman

Predicting the decision on Medjugorje with common sense - by Father George David Byers

What is Happening at Medjugorje?

The Truth About Medjugorje - Msgr. Pavao Zanic, Bishop of Mostar

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philosopher 31/07/2012 11:46:45

@RC- that would be a crucial distinction. But, I don't think God rules over Scientism, or has ruled over religions like Jim Jones' movement, or jihadism in Islam. It may be that while non-Catholic- (even the most bizarre) religions have elements of truth, they are ruled by the appetites of its leaders.

RomanCandle 31/07/2012 05:28:39

Philosopher, it would indeed be a heresy if Our Lady in
Medjugorje said that “all religions are equal”. I offer
below a complete quote rather than the partial quote
from Free Republic (FR).

A question was asked of one of the visionaries in October
1981. “Are all religions the same?” Our Lady replied,
“Members of all faiths are equal before God. God rules
over each faith just like a sovereign over his kingdom.
In the world, all religions are not the same because all
people have not complied … [More]

Temperance 31/07/2012 03:25:51

Just like in the OT only people in the Arc were saved. The Arc now is the Catholic Church.

philosopher 30/07/2012 23:59:45

Associated sexual misconduct aside,

any apparition that would be authentic cannot contradict Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition.
Ergo, that, "all religions are equal" is a heretical statement.

I guess the new-age modernist visionaries didn't get the word that only Catholics are in heaven. Please, before some ecumeniac goes berserk; yes, it’s true that there may be some outside the formal bounds of the Church that possibly are imperfectly in union with Christ, who might be saved, but that … [More]

sagradafamilia 30/07/2012 21:47:47

This might answer all your doubts:

http://give-me-some-answers.blogspot.com.ar/p/medjugorje-what-does-she-think.html

Temperance 30/07/2012 21:41:26

I wander what's worse having sex with God's wife/Nun or being a Homo?!

lukedaniel 30/07/2012 20:18:46

Well, at least he wasn't a homo.

Holy Cannoli 30/07/2012 20:04:48

Wonderful!

You have new information from a book published by four Croatian journalists!!!

Why don't YOU contact the Vatican, perhaps even HH himself, and tell him what you have discovered? Since he has defrocked your dear Fr. Vlasic, I am sure he would be interested in the exculpatory information that you have uncovered.

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Some information on your dear Fr. Vlasic:

The Franciscan asked to leave the priesthood after the Vatican … [More]

RomanCandle 30/07/2012 19:19:03

“The Virgin states that two Franciscan priests, removed
from their order and under suspension by the bishop,
one of whom later fathered a child by a nun, may
continue to say Mass and hear Confessions.”

Holy Cannoli, you made the allegation that a Franciscan
priest had fathered a child by a nun, and then linked to an
article by Simon Caldwell that does not support your serious
allegation. A book titled “Misterij Međugorja” was published
in 2011 by four Croatian journalists who extensively
resear … [More]

Temperance 30/07/2012 15:31:27

Holy Cannoli! I read your link!

This is more then enough evidence to sink Medjugorje's ship!

holyrope 3 30/07/2012 15:19:59

www.te-deum.blogspot.com/2008/10/medjugorje-pope-benedict-and-fr.html

Holy Cannoli 30/07/2012 14:16:37

Google is your friend, Sweetness.

Try it sometime.

RomanCandle 30/07/2012 13:54:11

“The Virgin states that two Franciscan priests, removed
from their order and under suspension by the bishop,
one of whom later fathered a child by a nun, may
continue to say Mass and hear Confessions.”

Holy Cannoli, you have made an allegation that a Franciscan
priest assigned to the Parish of St James in Medjugorje
fathered a child by a nun. Can you supply further
information to support this serious allegation?

Doina 30/07/2012 13:19:25

Dear Friends

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If anyone has an issue with the policies, decisions or what is posted in the News-Briefs area of Gloria.tv, show some common courtesy/ respect and express your concerns by private message.

Gloria.TV will never be able to make happy every one and it’s not even among the goals of this site. We explicitly want people with different opinions to posts their comments. So, when you see someone posting things that are in disagreement with you, do not take it as a threat for the … [More]

Holy Cannoli 30/07/2012 13:08:25

One quirk that emerged was when two of the Medjugorje visionaries said the Virgin Mary endorsed a book, "The Poem of the Man-God," that had been condemned by the Vatican. The fanciful 1940s biography of Jesus by Maria Valtorta contains details like a dancing girl brushing up against Jesus, Joseph giving young Jesus an anachronistic tool kit with screwdrivers and the Virgin Mary making statements such as "man disgusts me," Pacwa said.

These charlatans would have the world believe that the … [More]

Temperance 30/07/2012 11:51:36

I truly wish the Vatican would just go ahead and condemn this heresy for God sake! This stupid idiotic make-believe show these visionaries are doing are telling erroneous lies about Our Blessed Queen. She deserves the utmost respect, not this hogwash. These visionaries should be excommunicated for hurting so many souls. Their are millions of Catholics that have been duped because of them. I guaranty when the vatican does judge this as heresy people will leave the church and still follow these … [More]

RomanCandle 30/07/2012 10:34:11

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Gloria.TV – News Briefs 30/07/2012 06:41:07

Comments from FR:

I have a hard time believing the “Blessed Mother” would endorse a book.
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"Lack of...spiritual depth?" Who would have guessed by watching Vicka ... Link
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• What is Happening at Medjugorje?

In the first few years following the apparitions, around thirty different apparition places were chosen, with the Gospa appearing often as if “on cue.” Some of the messages, … [More]