Fruits of Vatican II and the New Mess---just how the Masons wanted it.

The enemy is within now--prepare for battle!!

You are NOT going to stop this with dialogue---how many Muslims and Jews have convert from the Novus Ordo Dialogue with them for last 40 years---NONE--- How many good Catholic souls were scandalized and left the Church –millions---the fruit is rotten

Christ is warning us--how many more signs do you need!!! ??

When the blossom swells you know the Spring is near---when these thing happen in the Church (V2 and Great Apostasy)—you know the enemy is leading.

How many converted after the huge sacrilege, Apostate and scandal of Assisi---NONE ---these acts of putting a Buddha Statue on High Altar of Assisi on top of Tabernacle and then worshiping it is the work of Devil--but yet JPII encouraged it. Who is he serving?

Don’t you see the Freemasons running the show here??----demand you Catholicism back and be ready to die like a martyr for it is going to take real men to do battle with this evil—for they are woven in the thread of the Church now—Modernist are the hierarchy (Wolves in Sheep clothing—As Christ warned us)

My first mission is to get you men to see who the real enemy is---it from the Top Down---this stuff is not happening by mistake. Authority in the Church is allowing this and other stuff to grow for a reason--- --then on other hand act as if they restoring the Church--in order to put a pacifier in the good and conservative crowds ( you guys) mouth to keep them from fighting against their modernist revolution—The Spirit of V2 lives on and want to going to Phase 4 of it destruction.

They are the enemies of Christ
Spit out the bone--it is a tool from SATAN

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE!!!!!!!!!!!

If I were the new priest assigned to this parish I would burn those puppets! I would fire the dancers, trash all the glass vessels, get new vestments, fire the music, turn this auditorium into a church, and give the parishioners a piece of my mind!!!

This is a complete travesty!!!!!!

Sham on you priest for letting this go on in your parish!!! Not only are you going to hell for this (unless you repent) but your also taking you flock with you!!!

This is actually the worsted thing I have ever seen! I would rather see a video of a person dying then watch this devil mass again! I would rather fantasize about Kim Kardasian than think about this Mass. I think I will go vomit now! Now I know that we are in the end times! Lord have mercy!!!!!!!!!

According to John Lounghan and Greg this is what Christ died on the Cross for --this type of abuse and you have to call it the Mass or your going to hell. This is the only reason people go to Hell in the N.O. is if they do not accept the abuse and modernist---otherwise all go to heaven--Jew, pagan, devil worship--only Traditionalist go to Hell!!

For it is not a Mass are all these people preforming a sacrilege and committing a mortal sin. O no--it all ok in the New Masonic religion---just a different version and with different forms

Man can not serve two Masters or have two Masses===only in the Novus Ordo cult everything is possible

It is the primary form of the Mess for the Novus Ordo cult. After 2000 years this is the best we can give Him. It is not that non typical.

This happens around the world everyday---with B16 doing nothing---he is the supreme commander and still nothing happens.

But yet we are suppose to say this is the same faith as St Pope Pius X defended

John, Said this is a Mass that Christ instituted and under pain of mortal sin and excommunication you must call legitimate and be obedient to the heretics who promoted it. Truly a Catholic Statement if I ever heard one---don't you agree--Hail John!!

John is that you dancing in joy???

I am sure Satan is grinning with joy over John's love for error and his ability to defend. Great job John L--you will get a special reward from him later.

You can have a lot of trust in John L words--for the fruits back up what he said--throw common sense and Church teachings out the window when speaking to him, for those square pegs will fit in round holes when you breath enough smoke from the Novus Ordo Opium Den of Illusion.

Die lassen - im wahrsten Sinne des Wortes - die Puppen tanzen.

Ohne Show geht es wohl nicht mehr?
Wieso, schlafen die Leute sonst ein?

Neben der Priesterweihe benötigt es die üblichen Voraussetzungen, daß ein Sakrament zustande kommt, diese wären:

a) die nötige Form (hier die Wandlungsworte)

b) die nötige Materie (hier Brot und Wein)

c) die korrekte Intention desjenigen, der das Sakrament vollzieht (allgemein: dieser jenige muß das tun wollen, was die Kirche tun will. Hier: nämlich Brot und Wein in Leib und Blut Christi wandeln. Konkret: Würde der Priester die gegenteilige Intention setzen, also sagen: "ich will nicht wandeln", dann käme kein Sakrament, also keine Wandlung zu stande)

@diesirae:

Ich kann Ihnen nicht ganz folgen. Geschieht die Wandlung nicht auch, wenn der Priester nicht daran glaubt, solange er nur rechtmäßig geweiht worden ist?

Naja, ohne die Intention des Zelebranten zu kennen und urteilen zu wollen, denke ich, dass das Hl. Messopfer nicht zustande gekommen ist. Also eine schöne protestantische Mahlfeier

Aber immerhin muss man ihnen zugute halten, dass ein Mann vorsteht (auch wenn er sich sicher nicht als Vorsteher sieht ;-)) und dass er tatsächlich vorschriftsmäßig gekleidet ist (also liturgisch)

Oremus pro invicem

unmöglich, einfach unmöglich!

Mich wundert, dass die Menschen das mitmachen,

Dass ist bestimmt nicht die Kirche, die Jesus Christus will.

Wird bei einer solchen Gestaltung der Heiligen Messe noch deutlich, dass es sich um die Vergegenwärtigung des Kreuzesopfers Christi handelt?

Die Behältnisse für das Blut Christi, die verwendeten Brotscheiben entsprechen nicht den Vorschriften der Kirche!

Überhaupt ist die Tanzerei irgendwie primitiv und merkwürdig. Tänzerische Darbietungen haben in unserem Kulturkreis in der Heiligen Messe nichts zu suchen, da sie vom Eigentlichen ablenken und nicht vorgesehen sind.

Mir hilft dabei der Blick auf die Messfeier in der außerordentlichen Form: Wenn sich nach dem Willen des Papstes die beiden Formen des einen römischen Ritus gegenseitig befruchten sollen, dann ist umso stärker zu merken, was dieser "Gestaltung" abgeht: Nämlich dass es bei der Heiligen Messe um Quelle und Höhepunkt des christlichen Lebens geht.