Father Piotr Natanek, the Polish Savonarola

Photo ~ Father Piotr Natanek The strange case of a young and brilliant priest suspended a divinis by Stanislaw Dziwisz for his millenarian positions and repeated accusations against the hierarchy …More
Photo ~ Father Piotr Natanek
The strange case of a young and brilliant priest suspended a divinis by Stanislaw Dziwisz for his millenarian positions and repeated accusations against the hierarchy
Father Stanislaw explained the situation in a letter dated 20 July, reminding Father Natanek, “known for his controversial homilies and messages posted on the web,” that he had not obeyed the disciplinary directives of 28 January 2010; had disregarded the canonic admonishments of 25 May 2007, 23 February 2009, and 9 April 2010; had ignored the invitation to a meeting with his superiors; has continued his damaging utterances - including those that were prohibited; spreads opinions not approved by the Church regarding the regality of Jesus Christ, based on private revelations and inspired by the eschatological seven, which is outside of the teachings of Church doctrine; he has also publicly put into doubt the authority of priests and, not least, invalidly celebrated a marriage, without the required …More
stanislawp
aron
Tell me how you want to keep sheep and wolves united?
It would be easy if bishop Stanislaw Dziwisz returned to teachings of St John Paul II to protect Catholics
and keep Poles united!
His long armes reached as far as Chicago and Toronto to divide Polonia.
Fr Piotr Natanek is just a sacrificial goat ... first it was fr Tadeusz Kiersztyn (2007) but when he was killed fr Peter Natanek decided to …
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aron

Tell me how you want to keep sheep and wolves united?
It would be easy if bishop Stanislaw Dziwisz returned to teachings of St John Paul II to protect Catholics
and keep Poles united!
His long armes reached as far as Chicago and Toronto to divide Polonia.

Fr Piotr Natanek is just a sacrificial goat ... first it was fr Tadeusz Kiersztyn (2007) but when he was killed fr Peter Natanek decided to fight for the Truth alone.
aron
Aron to Stanislaw and other siners on GTV.
"People working with suspended Fr. P. Natanek contribute to split the community of believers. If they cooperate in destroying the unity of the Church, they commit sin, which they have to confess and to repair in the sacrament of penance. Condition while receiving absolution is withdrawing from supporting a split in the Church and the willingness to repair …More
Aron to Stanislaw and other siners on GTV.

"People working with suspended Fr. P. Natanek contribute to split the community of believers. If they cooperate in destroying the unity of the Church, they commit sin, which they have to confess and to repair in the sacrament of penance. Condition while receiving absolution is withdrawing from supporting a split in the Church and the willingness to repair the evil."
Polish Bishops' Conference

There is no doubt - Supporters of Fr. Natanek commit sin! 🤨
Don Reto Nay
Fr Natanek is a priest who stands by the truth even if this is damaging to him. This is the opposite of a careerist. He could have had a simple and easy life where he was, but as a good shepherd he has decided to give his life for his sheep. In our days, among Catholic clergy this is very, very, very rare.
Shame on the "Vatican Insider" for insulting Fr Natanek. They obviously want to please the …More
Fr Natanek is a priest who stands by the truth even if this is damaging to him. This is the opposite of a careerist. He could have had a simple and easy life where he was, but as a good shepherd he has decided to give his life for his sheep. In our days, among Catholic clergy this is very, very, very rare.

Shame on the "Vatican Insider" for insulting Fr Natanek. They obviously want to please the politburo.
stanislawp
In the life of St Pio of Pietrelcina (Padre Pio) we discover that his Bishop, Archbishop Gagliardi, falsely accused Padre Pio of various wrongdoings, and had unjust sanctions imposed upon him. When people would speak against the Bishop concerning these unjust sanctions, St. Pio would quickly respond “The will of the Bishop is the will of God.”
Conscious of the importance of obedience, Padre Pio …
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In the life of St Pio of Pietrelcina (Padre Pio) we discover that his Bishop, Archbishop Gagliardi, falsely accused Padre Pio of various wrongdoings, and had unjust sanctions imposed upon him. When people would speak against the Bishop concerning these unjust sanctions, St. Pio would quickly respond “The will of the Bishop is the will of God.”

Conscious of the importance of obedience, Padre Pio was always showing an example of true religious obedience and respect to his superiors. For him, the superior was the image of Christ, and obeying him was obeying Christ. But it happened that God used Padre Pio's superiors as instruments for him to suffer from the Church, and for the Church. And so we see that even if the Bishop may be wrong in his judgment, we are always doing God's will by obeying him.


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I don't think it was God who is using bishops to false accuse priests.
Nothing to be proud of.
What is good in supporting false accusations?
stanislawp
I know that bp S Dziwisz does not follow teachings of the Church.
Fr Natanek did not obey his wrong teachings and fr Natanek prays for him in each Holy Mass he says.
but tell me
how easy is for you to call fr Piotr Natanek an idiot?
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and again
you judged fr Natanek saying what? that fr Natanek is not Padre Pio and is sinful? not obeying? evil cleric.?
Who are you?

if every priests …More
I know that bp S Dziwisz does not follow teachings of the Church.
Fr Natanek did not obey his wrong teachings and fr Natanek prays for him in each Holy Mass he says.

but tell me
how easy is for you to call fr Piotr Natanek an idiot?
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and again
you judged fr Natanek saying what? that fr Natanek is not Padre Pio and is sinful? not obeying? evil cleric.?
Who are you?


if every priests follows those bishops who say heresy we all go to Hell.
Thanx God we have fr Piotr Natanek and private reveletions from Padre Pio, St John, Holy Mary and Jesus Himself...
stanpiasta.com
Ottawa
Holy Cannoli
Would you please answer few questions?
Who suspended Padre Pio?
Did he/they have reason for suspension?
Would you say Padre Pio was an idiot and was suspended?

After I wrote that lengthy logical piece which, in almost any sentient being, would destroy their trust in this rogue preist, you write the above garbage to me?
Look, Natanek is no St. Pio and you demonstrate again that you are living in …More
Would you please answer few questions?
Who suspended Padre Pio?
Did he/they have reason for suspension?
Would you say Padre Pio was an idiot and was suspended?


After I wrote that lengthy logical piece which, in almost any sentient being, would destroy their trust in this rogue preist, you write the above garbage to me?

Look, Natanek is no St. Pio and you demonstrate again that you are living in denial regarding this suspended priest. Natanek's obligation was to obey his bishop in all that is not sinful. He refused and is suspended and you are living in denial by following this evil disobedient man. I will not waste any more time with you and your support for this evil cleric.

However, since YOU bring up St. Pio and try to create a parallel between the saint and this miserable Polish suspended priest, here's my final attempt to educate you.

In the life of St Pio of Pietrelcina (Padre Pio) we discover that his Bishop, Archbishop Gagliardi, falsely accused Padre Pio of various wrongdoings, and had unjust sanctions imposed upon him. When people would speak against the Bishop concerning these unjust sanctions, St. Pio would quickly respond “The will of the Bishop is the will of God.”

Conscious of the importance of obedience, Padre Pio was always showing an example of true religious obedience and respect to his superiors. For him, the superior was the image of Christ, and obeying him was obeying Christ. But it happened that God used Padre Pio's superiors as instruments for him to suffer from the Church, and for the Church. And so we see that even if the Bishop may be wrong in his judgment, we are always doing God's will by obeying him.
stanislawp
btw
In June 2013 Padre Pio few times contacted fr Piotr Natanek by Agnes Jezierski.
She wrote Padre's Pio teachings about Holy Mass (dictations)
Tajemnice Mszy św - Mistery of the Mass
On Aug 04 2013 the book was published
More info-contacts
www.christusvincit-tv.pl/viewpage.php
stanislawp
Holy Cannoli 2014-05-08 10:54:51
Fr Natanek: Another idiot in the post VC-II Firmament.
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Would you please answer few questions?
Who suspended Padre Pio?
Did he/they have reason for suspension?
Would you say Padre Pio was an idiot and was suspended?
How easy it is for you to judge priest Father Piotr Natanek, doctor of theology with long list of his writings and long list of his …More
Holy Cannoli 2014-05-08 10:54:51
Fr Natanek: Another idiot in the post VC-II Firmament.

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re
Would you please answer few questions?
Who suspended Padre Pio?
Did he/they have reason for suspension?
Would you say Padre Pio was an idiot and was suspended?
How easy it is for you to judge priest Father Piotr Natanek, doctor of theology with long list of his writings and long list of his acts and teachings as good priest faithful to his homeland and Tradition of the Holy Church?
How bizarre?
One more comment from stanislawp
stanislawp
If you think that that was an illegitimate sanction not warranted by the rebel priest's disobedience, you must then believe that the man (Dziwisz) who St. Pope John Paul II the Greatest of All Time chose to be his personal secretary was a terribly flawed character and issued imprudent sanctions against the “saintly priest” Fr. Natanek without proper cause.
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That is right.
BP Dziwisz does …More
If you think that that was an illegitimate sanction not warranted by the rebel priest's disobedience, you must then believe that the man (Dziwisz) who St. Pope John Paul II the Greatest of All Time chose to be his personal secretary was a terribly flawed character and issued imprudent sanctions against the “saintly priest” Fr. Natanek without proper cause.
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That is right.
BP Dziwisz does not follow teachings of JPII
Holy Cannoli
Cardinal Stanislaw Dziwisz, former special secretary to St. Pope John Paul II, suspended the rebel priest (Fr. Natanek) a divinis for disobedience.
If you think that that was an illegitimate sanction not warranted by the rebel priest's disobedience, you must then believe that the man (Dziwisz) who St. Pope John Paul II the Greatest of All Time chose to be his personal secretary was a terribly …More
Cardinal Stanislaw Dziwisz, former special secretary to St. Pope John Paul II, suspended the rebel priest (Fr. Natanek) a divinis for disobedience.

If you think that that was an illegitimate sanction not warranted by the rebel priest's disobedience, you must then believe that the man (Dziwisz) who St. Pope John Paul II the Greatest of All Time chose to be his personal secretary was a terribly flawed character and issued imprudent sanctions against the “saintly priest” Fr. Natanek without proper cause.

This would then lead to the logical conclusion that St. Pope John Paul II's judgement was itself flawed since he chose such a flawed character (Dziwisz) to be his personal secretary. But, such an imprudent choice for a personal secretary would be impossible for St. Pope John Paul II the Greatest of All Time. Therefore, Dziwisz was correct in suspending a divinis Natanek.

What we see in this case is a cult of personality which arises when an individual uses mass media, propaganda, or other methods, to create an idealized, heroic, and at times, worshipful image of themselves, often through unquestioning flattery and praise with truth mixed with lies and, in Natanek's case, punctuated by insubordination toward his bishop. There is no excuse for unseemly behavior from a Catholic cleric as demonstrated in Father Natanek's vile comments made about others, especially during these times of worldwide mistrust of the Catholic Church and its clergy. The man is no hero of the Catholic faith and is not to be emulated.

Primitive Defense Mechanisms
1. Denial

Denial is the refusal to accept reality or fact, acting as if a painful event, thought or feeling did not exist. It is considered one of the most primitive of the defense mechanisms because it is characteristic of early childhood development. Many people use denial in their everyday lives to avoid dealing with painful feelings or areas of their life they don’t wish to admit.
stanislawp
Fr Peter Natanek in Belgium, EU
Apr 30 2014
Ks.Natanek Przed Parlamentem w BrukseliMore
Fr Peter Natanek in Belgium, EU

Apr 30 2014
Ks.Natanek Przed Parlamentem w Brukseli
Abramo
@Holy Cannoli:
Archibishop Józef Życiński was the Roger Mahoney (or Joseph Bernardin) of the Polish Church. I can understand why Fr Natanek said what he said.
Holy Cannoli
de·ni·al (dĕ-nī'ăl),
An unconscious defense mechanism used to allay anxiety by denying the existence of important conflicts, troublesome impulses, events, actions, or illness.
stanislawp
Speaking of Monsignor Józef Życiński - Archbishop of Lublin, a famous intellectual and supporter of Europe
Holy Cannoli
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bp Życiński was destroying Lublin and KUL.
If KUL will not name his teachings as wrong KUL will be in trouble of bankruptcy
, moral and financial.
Was it fr Natanek who first said the truth about Monsignor Józef Życiński?
That shows his backbone!
franciszek44
Holy Cannoli
Presenting opinion about anybody has to be veryfied.
In case of father Peter Natanek you copy lies, lies, lies...
It is sad and not acceptable that you put this article as a true one
on gloria.tv. catholic web.
1. see the Catholic Church not through binnacles of traitors and lazy /priests, bishops, cardinals, regular believers who are under heretical modernism influence,they called …
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Holy Cannoli
Presenting opinion about anybody has to be veryfied.
In case of father Peter Natanek you copy lies, lies, lies...
It is sad and not acceptable that you put this article as a true one
on gloria.tv. catholic web.

1. see the Catholic Church not through binnacles of traitors and lazy /priests, bishops, cardinals, regular believers who are under heretical modernism influence,they called their-selves "open church, liberal church/. They are more and more happy when the Church is destroyed...
What pope Benedict XVI said: "The Catholic Church is like boat filled out with water, wind of destruction hit him stronger and stronger . Let's call: our Lord save us because we are going to die".

2. Father Peter Natanek for many years calling faithful people for wake up and follow Jesus Christ. Is it WRONG ?
He opened eyes many people and called for spiritual and christian world CRISTIADA
by praying and life as a true followers of Jesus Christ.
He show:
tragedy of Church of the end XX and beginning XXI century;
systematic hate and Church destruction , specially from freemasonery and other liberal systems,
Also destruction of Church by Church people who became tools of satan...
It is true...
It is not lie...

If it is true, why you are so afraid?
Article is coming from Vatican insider? from Vatican?
Look how many bishops and cardinals work so hard to destroy Jesus Christ Church?
Don't be afraid and don' use your saliva against holy priest
...
If you are adult and baptized your responsibility is to pray and "fight" for your LORD and Church.
If you avoid it, if you destroy God's people you are not worthy call yourselves a Catholic
stanislawp
Don Reto Nay 08/05/2014 16:38:38
There is no doubt that Fr Natanek is a saintly priest. In my life I did not meet many priest who gave me the impression that they were truly pious and religious. Fr Natanek was one of them.
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Thank You father for your testimony.
God Bless You. God Bless Gloria.tv
😇
Holy Cannoli
The words of a saintly priest or was Fr. Natanek just having a bad day?
Speaking of Monsignor Józef Życiński - Archbishop of Lublin, a famous intellectual and supporter of Europe who died several months ago in Rome - Father Natanek “revealed” that “now the bishop is in hell, bound by the heaviest chain to Mohammed” and that “his cries can be heard in heaven.”
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His (Fr Natanek) blatant actions …More
The words of a saintly priest or was Fr. Natanek just having a bad day?

Speaking of Monsignor Józef Życiński - Archbishop of Lublin, a famous intellectual and supporter of Europe who died several months ago in Rome - Father Natanek “revealed” that “now the bishop is in hell, bound by the heaviest chain to Mohammed” and that “his cries can be heard in heaven.”

and

His (Fr Natanek) blatant actions increase day by day: he recently attacked a TVN 24 film crew, asking God to curse them.

The rule seems to be "stay on Fr. Natanek's good side" or be consigned to the nether regions and/or be cursed by God.
Don Reto Nay
There is no doubt that Fr Natanek is a saintly priest. In my life I did not meet many priest who gave me the impression that they were truly pious and religious. Fr Natanek was one of them.